<<May 18, 2000>>

Roger Lee Boston <rboston@tenet.edu>

Terry Driscoll <driscoll@montana.edu>

Kimberly K. Obbink <kobbink@montana.edu>

Nels D. Sanddal <nsanddal@citmt.org>

W. R. (Bill) Klemm <wklemm@cvm.tamu.edu>

Alexandre Rivas <alex_mau@argo.com.br>

Mr. Nivelle Daou Junior <ndj@osite.com.br>

Mr. Barry McLarnon <barry.mclarnon@crc.ca>

Dear Roger:

(1)  Many thanks for your msg (ATTACHMENT I).

     I am very glad to know that your wonderful demo is still making rippling
     effecta through our Tampere event alumni!!

(2)  Your demo in Manaus will take place at AMAZONSAT TV station which
     has almost any equipment and even 1 Mbps Internet linkage to the outside world.

     I would then like to suggest that you will make NetMeeting
     videoconferencing with your Houston Community College and/or Burns
     Telecommunications Center / MSU.  This is similar to the one we did
     between the University of Tampere and BTC/MSU during our Tampere event.

     This is to open the eyes of decision-makers to the value of broadband
     Internet -- one of major objectives of our workshop in Manaus.

          During our GLH videoconferencing in October, 1998, your NetMeeting
          was very good with 56 Kbps dial-up modem, so that I am sure you
          can made much better one this time through the 1 Mbps line.

(3)  Our sessions on 6/1st and 2nd will be held in a hotel where there will
     be a 56 Kbps dial-up modem access to Internet, according to Alex.

     I would then appreciate it very much if you can make a NetMeeting
     connection with BTC/MSU from 14:20 to 14:40 of June 1st.

          If you freeze the video frame, you would get a good audio.

(4)  I would strongly suggest that you will bring CD-ROM version of any of
     your web pages, e.g., the one you did with Colette and David for
     STARLINK session, etc., for back-up purpose.

          Incidentally, I haven't received its copy yet.

Dear Kim:

(5)  We are very sorry we could not get NSF's travel fund for your attendance.

     However, I would be very happy if you can present what distance learning
     courses (*) you can offer from BTC/MSU to UNAMAZ consortium member
     universities via narrow-band Internet during the NetMeeting
     videoconferencing from 14:20 to 14:40 of June 1st.  See its program at

          (*)  They could be Nels D. Sanddal's emergency medical care,
          nurse training, environment, etc.

     You may use your web while we access it with another PC according to
     your instruction which to be clicked, etc.

          Dear Alex:

          Can you kindly arrange two PC's at the hotel? -- one to access
          Kim's web and other to do NetMeeting with her.  Pls let me know.

     As a back-up, you may send Roger (or Alex) your CD-ROM, if you have one, and
     your connection can be only for audio, to save the bandwidth.

     When you decide to participate in it, pls let me know.

          Dear Roger:

          Pls make sure to describe about the distance learning courses
          available from your Houston Community College to the attendees'
          schools during your demo.

Dear Terry:

(6)  Pls coordinate with Roger and Kim to accomplish the above.  Thanks.

(7)  Your requirement for Nels Sanddal is for his ambulance which would
     requires mobil wireless Internet access.

     You may contact Barry McLarnon whom Kim met during our Tampere event.

(8)  BTW, this recalls my experience with the people of Tokyo Electro-Communication
     University almost a quarter century ago.  They drove a
     truck with a wireless transceiver around the town of Tokyo to measure
     the strength of signal, though the speed of their transmission was very
     low, say, 300 bps at that time.

     Barry can tell you about the use of broadband (up to 3 Mbps or even 10
     Mbps) spread spectrum wireless Internet without license.

     If your project will succeed, it would be very significant.  Pls keep me
     posted with your results.

Dear Bill:

(9)  We are very sorry we could not get NSF's travel fund for your attendance.

     Can you send me a CD-ROM for the demo of your FORUM or let me know the
     URL of your demo web site?

     Although I cannot find the appropriate time for connecting with you, I
     will try to find some extra time during the session to show it to the
     workshop audiences.

Thank you very much for your cooperation.

Best, Tak
                          ATTACHMENT I

Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 14:04:21 -0500
From: rboston <rboston@tenet.edu>
To: "Driscoll, Terry" <driscoll@montana.edu>, busbee_k@hccs.cc.tx.us,
Subject: Re: Tampere Finland Demonstration

Hello Terry, easy question to answer.

I showed many ideas during my Finland stay, some of which might well work for
your purposes.  I will begin however with a couple of questions:

#1  HOW LOW is your bandwidth available?
#2 What real components of "Conferencing" do you need??

Reason I ask, is that 'conferencing' is many things to many people, and with
low bandwidths you'll need to compromise some -- so let my response be
strictly limited to  < or = 28.8 MODEM Speed, a realistic yet honest at least
21,200 baud.  If your ambulance network can't go that fast then we turn to
other tools and I can still talk to you about those.

In Finland they saw:

#1  A VFONE video server software, running on a P133 16 meg laptop
      in Texas -- this "server" re-broadcast a low speed video stream from
      one laptop to as many as 25 concurrent listeners (some versions
      do 50 streams), each listener used the VFONE software as a client,
      - All listeners see/hear same broadcast
      - All listeners have live keyboard chat
      - ANY listener can become the BROADCASTER at the touch of the
         left mouse button by the broadcast moderator (me)
      - Any of these participants could also view documents on the web for
        discussion as a group (all view at same time)

#2  Using NET MEETING 2.1
       This versioni of the sofware allows MANY persons to be in a meeting together, sharing
      - keyboard chat
      - white board for slides, diagrams
      - file transfer
      - remote applications sharing
      It ALSO allows the meeting host, or ANY other participant, to direct
      audio and video to any participant.

      I have used this tool in countless group meetings which I moderated, and
      "rotated the camera/ microphone" from one speaker to the next, as if
      they were waiting in line to be the invited speaker here in our meeting room.

#3  8X8 H.324

      This device is quite amazing as a conferencing tool, providing boardroom
      quality full duplex audio, and very nice frame rate video in a tiny
      integrated unit.  It is pure H.324 video, but I build a 4 port video
      bridge which can

      connect up to 4 at a time in group conferencing

Now --

If your conferencing need is for everything except the video face, you might
be far happier with FIRETALK, which gives large groups full duplex audio with
concutrrent chat and full remote control of the web browsers -- carefully
designed a great collaborative experience can be had with this tool.  A close
companion is the HEARME product, which offers a freeze frame See-me option
for those wishing to 'add a face' to the operation.

I will be demonstrating such things in Manaus Brazil in two weeks, including
some interesting HALF Duplex approaches to conference calling with REAL
PRODUCER, which is supposed to be only a broadcast and compression tool.

If you have further questions perhaps you can call me, 713 718 5224, or meet
me in one of our audio talking rooms (http://www.teched.org, choose
'telecommunications' link from main menu).

Roger Boston
Rockwell Chair/ Instructor
Houston Community College System

"Driscoll, Terry" wrote:

> Mr. Boston,
> I am working with one of the participants in a planning conference that was
> held in Tampere, Finland.  We are setting up a network of Ambulance services
> in our state that have low bandwidth and would like to use NetMeeting for
> conferencing.  At that conference you had a demonstration where there were
> multiple people using NetMeeting.  I am told that you as a host could toggle
> between participants for live video and audio.  Did you use a MCU and if so
> what did you use?  Nels Sanddal thought that you were strictly using
> NetMeeting and I have not been able to see how you can have more than two
> people using video and audio without using a MCU. I would appreciate any
> suggestions that you can offer or directions you can point me in.
> Thank you,
> Terry
> * Terry Driscoll
> * Burns Telecommunications Center / MSU
> * 128 EPS Building
> * Bozeman, Mt.  59717-3860
> * 406-994-6490 Fax 406-994-7856
> * driscoll@montana.edu

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Roger Lee Boston
Rockwell Chair/Instructor
Distance Education/Technology Center
Houston Community College System
4310 Dunlavy Street
P.O.Box 7849
Houston, Texas 77006
Tel: +1-713-718 5224
Fax: +1-713-718 5301
boston_r@hccs.cc.tx.us (secondary)

Terry Driscoll
Burns Telecommunications Center / MSU
128 EPS Building
Bozeman, Mt.  59717-3860
Fax 406-994-7856

Kimberly K. Obbink
Burns Telecommunications Center and Extended Studies
128 EPS Building,
Montana State University
Bozeman, MT 59717-3860
Tel: +1-406-994 6550
Fax: +1-406-994 7856

Nels D. Sanddal
President & CEO
Critical Illness and Trauma Foundation
300 North Willson Avenue, Suite 3002
Bozeman, MT 59715
Tel: +1-406-585 2659
Fax: +1-406-585 2741

W. R. (Bill) Klemm, D.V.M., Ph.D.
Professor of Neuroscience
Dept. VAPH, Mail Stop 4458
Texas A&M University
College Station, TX 77843-4458
Forum Enterprises, Inc.
9001 Grassburr Road
P.O. Box 5755
Bryan, TX 77805-5755
409-589-2665 (home)
FAX: 409-847-8981
wklemm@cvm.tamu.edu<<June 22, 1999>>Use this.
http://www.cvm.tamu.edu/wklemm -- resume and slide show of 8/19/98.
Demos & literature available at our WWW site:
http://cvm.tamu.edu/~vaph/klemm/resume.html -- photo of Dr. Klemm
www.cvm.tamu.edu/wklemm/contents.htm -- white-paper
http://www.foruminc.com/forum98.show/ss_ind.html -- slide show

Alexandre Rivas, Ph.D.
Adjunct Professor
Director of the Center for Environmental Sciences
University of Amazonas - Brazil
C.P. 4208, Manaus 69053-140
+55-92-644 23 22
Fax: +55-92-644 23 84

Mr. Nivelle Daou Junior
Radio TV do Amazonas Ltda (AMAZONSAT)
Rede Amazonica Radio e Televisao
Av. Andre Araujo
n 1555 - Aleixo
CEP 69060-000
Manaus, Amazonas
Tel: 092-642-1900 e 642-1672
Fax: 092-642-2625

Mr. Barry McLarnon, P. Eng.
Project leader, Radio Broadcast Systems
Communications Research Center Canada
2696 Regina Street
Ottawa, Ontario K2B 6Y1
Tel: +1-613-998 5005
Fax: +1-613-993 9950
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