Roger Lee Boston <rboston@tenet.edu>
Terry Driscoll <driscoll@montana.edu>
Kimberly K. Obbink <kobbink@montana.edu>
Nels D. Sanddal <nsanddal@citmt.org>
W. R. (Bill) Klemm <wklemm@cvm.tamu.edu>
Alexandre Rivas <alex_mau@argo.com.br>
Mr. Nivelle Daou Junior <ndj@osite.com.br>
Mr. Barry McLarnon <barry.mclarnon@crc.ca>
Dear Roger:
===========
(1) Many thanks for your msg (ATTACHMENT I).
I am very glad to know that your wonderful
demo is still making rippling
effecta through our Tampere event alumni!!
(2) Your demo in Manaus will take place at AMAZONSAT TV station
which
has almost any equipment and even 1 Mbps Internet
linkage to the outside world.
I would then like to suggest that you will
make NetMeeting
videoconferencing with your Houston Community
College and/or Burns
Telecommunications Center / MSU. This
is similar to the one we did
between the University of Tampere and BTC/MSU
during our Tampere event.
This is to open the eyes of decision-makers
to the value of broadband
Internet -- one of major objectives of our
workshop in Manaus.
During our GLH
videoconferencing in October, 1998, your NetMeeting
was very good
with 56 Kbps dial-up modem, so that I am sure you
can made much
better one this time through the 1 Mbps line.
(3) Our sessions on 6/1st and 2nd will be held in a hotel where
there will
be a 56 Kbps dial-up modem access to Internet,
according to Alex.
I would then appreciate it very much if you
can make a NetMeeting
connection with BTC/MSU from 14:20 to 14:40
of June 1st.
If you freeze the video frame, you would get a good audio.
(4) I would strongly suggest that you will bring CD-ROM version
of any of
your web pages, e.g., the one you did with
Colette and David for
STARLINK session, etc., for back-up purpose.
Incidentally, I haven't received its copy yet.
Dear Kim:
=========
(5) We are very sorry we could not get NSF's travel fund for your attendance.
However, I would be very happy if you can present
what distance learning
courses (*) you can offer from BTC/MSU to
UNAMAZ consortium member
universities via narrow-band Internet during
the NetMeeting
videoconferencing from 14:20 to 14:40 of June
1st. See its program at
<http://www.argo.com.br/~alex_mau/workshop/workshop.htm>.
(*) They
could be Nels D. Sanddal's emergency medical care,
nurse training,
environment, etc.
You may use your web while we access it with
another PC according to
your instruction which to be clicked, etc.
Dear Alex:
==========
Can you kindly
arrange two PC's at the hotel? -- one to access
Kim's web and
other to do NetMeeting with her. Pls let me know.
As a back-up, you may send Roger (or Alex)
your CD-ROM, if you have one, and
your connection can be only for audio, to
save the bandwidth.
When you decide to participate in it, pls let me know.
Dear Roger:
===========
Pls make sure
to describe about the distance learning courses
available from
your Houston Community College to the attendees'
schools during
your demo.
Dear Terry:
===========
(6) Pls coordinate with Roger and Kim to accomplish the above. Thanks.
(7) Your requirement for Nels Sanddal is for his ambulance which
would
requires mobil wireless Internet access.
You may contact Barry McLarnon whom Kim met during our Tampere event.
(8) BTW, this recalls my experience with the people of Tokyo Electro-Communication
University almost a quarter century ago.
They drove a
truck with a wireless transceiver around the
town of Tokyo to measure
the strength of signal, though the speed of
their transmission was very
low, say, 300 bps at that time.
Barry can tell you about the use of broadband
(up to 3 Mbps or even 10
Mbps) spread spectrum wireless Internet without
license.
If your project will succeed, it would be very
significant. Pls keep me
posted with your results.
Dear Bill:
==========
(9) We are very sorry we could not get NSF's travel fund for your attendance.
Can you send me a CD-ROM for the demo of your
FORUM or let me know the
URL of your demo web site?
Although I cannot find the appropriate time
for connecting with you, I
will try to find some extra time during the
session to show it to the
workshop audiences.
Thank you very much for your cooperation.
Best, Tak
****************************************
ATTACHMENT I
Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 14:04:21 -0500
From: rboston <rboston@tenet.edu>
To: "Driscoll, Terry" <driscoll@montana.edu>, busbee_k@hccs.cc.tx.us,
utsumi@columbia.edu
Subject: Re: Tampere Finland Demonstration
Hello Terry, easy question to answer.
I showed many ideas during my Finland stay, some of which might well
work for
your purposes. I will begin however with a couple of questions:
#1 HOW LOW is your bandwidth available?
#2 What real components of "Conferencing" do you need??
Reason I ask, is that 'conferencing' is many things to many people,
and with
low bandwidths you'll need to compromise some -- so let my response
be
strictly limited to < or = 28.8 MODEM Speed, a realistic yet
honest at least
21,200 baud. If your ambulance network can't go that fast then
we turn to
other tools and I can still talk to you about those.
In Finland they saw:
#1 A VFONE video server software, running on a P133 16 meg laptop
in Texas -- this "server" re-broadcast
a low speed video stream from
one laptop to as many as 25 concurrent
listeners (some versions
do 50 streams), each listener used the
VFONE software as a client,
- All listeners see/hear same broadcast
- All listeners have live keyboard chat
- ANY listener can become the BROADCASTER
at the touch of the
left mouse button
by the broadcast moderator (me)
- Any of these participants could also
view documents on the web for
discussion as a group (all
view at same time)
#2 Using NET MEETING 2.1
This versioni of the sofware allows
MANY persons to be in a meeting together, sharing
- keyboard chat
- white board for slides, diagrams
- file transfer
- remote applications sharing
It ALSO allows the meeting host, or
ANY other participant, to direct
audio and video to any participant.
I have used this tool in countless group
meetings which I moderated, and
"rotated the camera/ microphone" from
one speaker to the next, as if
they were waiting in line to be the
invited speaker here in our meeting room.
#3 8X8 H.324
This device is quite amazing as a conferencing
tool, providing boardroom
quality full duplex audio, and very
nice frame rate video in a tiny
integrated unit. It is pure H.324
video, but I build a 4 port video
bridge which can
connect up to 4 at a time in group conferencing
Now --
If your conferencing need is for everything except the video face, you
might
be far happier with FIRETALK, which gives large groups full duplex
audio with
concutrrent chat and full remote control of the web browsers -- carefully
designed a great collaborative experience can be had with this tool.
A close
companion is the HEARME product, which offers a freeze frame See-me
option
for those wishing to 'add a face' to the operation.
I will be demonstrating such things in Manaus Brazil in two weeks, including
some interesting HALF Duplex approaches to conference calling with
REAL
PRODUCER, which is supposed to be only a broadcast and compression
tool.
If you have further questions perhaps you can call me, 713 718 5224,
or meet
me in one of our audio talking rooms (http://www.teched.org,
choose
'telecommunications' link from main menu).
Roger Boston
Rockwell Chair/ Instructor
Houston Community College System
"Driscoll, Terry" wrote:
> Mr. Boston,
>
> I am working with one of the participants in a planning conference
that was
> held in Tampere, Finland. We are setting up a network of Ambulance
services
> in our state that have low bandwidth and would like to use NetMeeting
for
> conferencing. At that conference you had a demonstration where
there were
> multiple people using NetMeeting. I am told that you as a host
could toggle
> between participants for live video and audio. Did you use
a MCU and if so
> what did you use? Nels Sanddal thought that you were strictly
using
> NetMeeting and I have not been able to see how you can have more
than two
> people using video and audio without using a MCU. I would appreciate
any
> suggestions that you can offer or directions you can point me in.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Terry
>
> * Terry Driscoll
> * Burns Telecommunications Center / MSU
> * 128 EPS Building
> * Bozeman, Mt. 59717-3860
> * 406-994-6490 Fax 406-994-7856
> * driscoll@montana.edu
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Roger Lee Boston
Rockwell Chair/Instructor
Distance Education/Technology Center
Houston Community College System
4310 Dunlavy Street
P.O.Box 7849
Houston, Texas 77006
USA
Tel: +1-713-718 5224
Fax: +1-713-718 5301
rboston@tenet.edu
boston_r@hccs.cc.tx.us (secondary)
http://www.rboston.com
http://www.teched.org/
http://www.hccs.cc.tx.us
http://www.teched.org/Finland
http://www.teched.org/ChinaLive
http://www.teched.org/starlink
Terry Driscoll
Burns Telecommunications Center / MSU
128 EPS Building
Bozeman, Mt. 59717-3860
406-994-6490
Fax 406-994-7856
driscoll@montana.edu
Kimberly K. Obbink
Director
Burns Telecommunications Center and Extended Studies
128 EPS Building,
Montana State University
Bozeman, MT 59717-3860
USA
Tel: +1-406-994 6550
Fax: +1-406-994 7856
kobbink@montana.edu
http://btc.montana.edu
Nels D. Sanddal
President & CEO
Critical Illness and Trauma Foundation
300 North Willson Avenue, Suite 3002
Bozeman, MT 59715
USA
Tel: +1-406-585 2659
Fax: +1-406-585 2741
nsanddal@citmt.org
www.citmt.org
W. R. (Bill) Klemm, D.V.M., Ph.D.
Professor of Neuroscience
Dept. VAPH, Mail Stop 4458
Texas A&M University
College Station, TX 77843-4458
409-845-4201
or
President
Forum Enterprises, Inc.
9001 Grassburr Road
P.O. Box 5755
Bryan, TX 77805-5755
409-589-2665 (home)
FAX: 409-847-8981
wklemm@cvm.tamu.edu<<June 22, 1999>>Use this.
wklemm@vetmed.tamu.edu
wrk2101@tam2000.tamu.edu
72133.2476@compuserve.com
http://www.ForumInc.com
http://www.cvm.tamu.edu/wklemm -- resume and slide show of 8/19/98.
Demos & literature available at our WWW site:
http://cvm.tamu.edu/~vaph/klemm/whoami.html
http://cvm.tamu.edu/~vaph/klemm/resume.html -- photo of Dr. Klemm
http://cwis.usq.edu.au/electpub/e-jist/vol2no1/klemm/caadehom.htm
www.cvm.tamu.edu/wklemm/contents.htm -- white-paper
http://www.foruminc.com/forum98.show/ss_ind.html -- slide show
Alexandre Rivas, Ph.D.
Adjunct Professor
Director of the Center for Environmental Sciences
University of Amazonas - Brazil
C.P. 4208, Manaus 69053-140
BRAZIL
+55-92-644 23 22
Fax: +55-92-644 23 84
alex_mau@argo.com.br
http://www.argo.com.br/~alex_mau/alex.htm
http://www.argo.com.br/~alex_mau/workshop/workshop.htm
Mr. Nivelle Daou Junior
Radio TV do Amazonas Ltda (AMAZONSAT)
Rede Amazonica Radio e Televisao
Av. Andre Araujo
n 1555 - Aleixo
CEP 69060-000
Manaus, Amazonas
BRAZIL
Tel: 092-642-1900 e 642-1672
Fax: 092-642-2625
ndj@osite.com.br
www.amazonsat.com.br
Mr. Barry McLarnon, P. Eng.
Project leader, Radio Broadcast Systems
Communications Research Center Canada
2696 Regina Street
Ottawa, Ontario K2B 6Y1
CANADA
Tel: +1-613-998 5005
Fax: +1-613-993 9950
barry.mclarnon@crc.ca
http://hydra.carleton.ca/info/wlan.html
http://www.drb.crc.ca
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